Haha lone TA fella here sure kena tembak... but thanks Sam for the defence. Much appreciated your gentleman style. I too free nothing to do this weekend, so post a lot hehe but also your comments quite interesting, else I also wont reply :)
Dear Theng,
Thank you for highlighting where I came from. Not too sure what bizfun ppl did to you or what they say make you not happy. Hopefully it was not me. Haha. Anyway, I owe the bizfun forum because I learnt a lot there. Maybe you didnt learn anything there but as I did, of course it is only natural I feel gratitude right? Its like you feel gratitude towards Sam here. Same thing loh.
Dear Herbert,
I ve been silently reading this blog for some time as mentioned earlier. Sam post his buy and sell calls. But I have not read a more detailed analysis as like those in newspaper or magazines. Maybe I am wrong, but I think Sam does not do so much homework like the fund managers, investment analysts etc and his results are superior than those fund managers/investment analysts right? So perhaps homework need to do, but not that much as those by the analysts?
As for the cycle, Sam corrected my wording used - I should have said Market rise and fall; instead of originally Stock rise and fall. But the whole premise I was trying to say is that it is based on the economic theory of rise and fall due to supply and demand. And TA is centered around this idea. Yes, some good stocks can have strong fundamentals that is why demand is high then price go up. But for some shit stocks also price can go up one woh... if not goreng, I dont know what that is.
Which blog show TA more superior? Actually, so far, I have yet to see any blog which are superior... no offense... I started off in the net visiting many many forums. Then visit many many blogs. Often I stay for a few days to a few months. Most initially look very good. Then found out its not so good. This blog I havent really track yet. Will track loh. Then see if really this blog is good. No offense ar, Sam. Just I belum tahu lagi.
No offense taken on my part. No worries. Van Tharp once said, Everyone of us will have a version of the truth of which may or may not be the truth. Or something to the effect la. Maybe you re right, maybe not. I dont know. Time will tell.
Dear Theng once more,
Correct me if I am wrong, but Moo guy is a strong advocate of FA no?
I remember arguing once kaukau with him. Because I borrowed Buffett's idea of "Selling when the reason you buy is no longer there" into TA. - he not happy. Then he say because I used foul language. All I said was that I have bastardized Buffett's idea and put it into TA. Yeahla... bastard is foul word la. But in that context, it merely mean I change it loh. But he cannot accept.
What to do.Btw, I m better at FKLI/FCPO than stocks... so well if you think I dont know FKLI/FCPO... aiyah... apa macam mau bikin... no need to challenge me in stocks also. Because my stock picking skills lousy mah. Right in the beginning already say loh.
Dear Sam,
OKla... Seng knows nuts about TA la. Happy? He started his blog that time was pure FA. I was the one introducing and convincing him TA can pakai. Then he started looking at TA and to learn TA. Until now how long only? In time la, he ll be better in TA. Is like, how long you took to master FA? Dont tell me born with it one ar... hahahaha
Anyway, yeahla, I pusing pusing then say the same thing. This one call polite mah :P
Yes, shit stock if delisted then relist is unlikely to recoup losses if one bought earlier. But well, my point is just that they might come back - thus the cycle. Anyway, as said above and earlier, I ll mention Market Rise and Fall from now onwards, instead of Stock. Actually I didnt say stock rise because of TA. I merely mention I didnt bother with the why loh.
How to define accumulation and distribution? Well... earlier I did mention that in accumulation, price doesnt move much; got some volume. And accumulation happen AFTER downtrend.
Distribution happen AFTER Uptrend. Price moves in range, volatility quite high. Volume remain high. But the price is in range only. Dont go make new major highs etc liaw...
Aiyah... if I know when... then maybe I no need pakai condom leh? Then I use the withdrawal style loh... :P Yes la... risk is higher. But rubber also not 100% mah. And more shiok without rubber. Hahaha.
FKLI. Manyak senang. Short now until Aug. That ll be my position. I m not that active in blogging, so if you want me become like you to post before hand, then susah la. You got followers. I dont have.You enjoy posting then let others make. I dont care loh others make or not. Not my bank account also. OKla, you can say me selfish. I accept one. But if you like, you can assume I take one contract every month. Margin is RM4000 now. Dont count the CNY higher margin la. That one temporary only. One point is RM50. End of every month see the ROI is how much. Maybe negative also can hahahaha but ROI number is big. So thats why if you say you earned 1500% ROI, I wont disbelieve just based on the number 1500 one. I am fine if you base this as my "performance".
Make money in the market? Due to FA or TA or our brain power strong? Actually I think its neither loh. I always think I make money not because I am smart. Just because the operator let me make only. I am such a small fish. If they want to kill me, anytime they can. Even PB Aneas with 400mil fund also mati... so if they dont want to let me make very easy for them to do only.
So now if you want practical, can be either the options below lo:
1) You choose 5 stocks. Then I comment. Then you comment. I comment first because I am outsider unproven fellow. You would not want me to follow your comments right? This blog is owned by you, so home ground advantage, you comment later lo.
2) You track my assumed ROI per month by assuming I short every first day of the month until Aug. Margin - the capital is RM4000 per lot. Then kautim loh. I already analysed and my analysis tell me should short until Aug. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I am right. Dont know one ar... if right, make money lo. Wrong ma lose money lo. Simple ma.So Sam, apa macam?
Whichever also can. Once again, I thank you for coming to my defence. Appreciate it a lot. If you do come to Klang, let me know. Bakuteh on me. :)
One thing, I d like to stress though... I am not a master of TA. I am a student of TA. If say Sam agrees on the challenge and then I lose, it ll only mean one thing... my knowledge not enough. Then I ll put in more efforts in learning :)And if I win, then it ll only mean I must learn to remain humble. Either case, it ll not mean FA or TA is more superior. Just that it mean we ll have to keep learning.
Happy learning!
Dear Theng,
Thank you for highlighting where I came from. Not too sure what bizfun ppl did to you or what they say make you not happy. Hopefully it was not me. Haha. Anyway, I owe the bizfun forum because I learnt a lot there. Maybe you didnt learn anything there but as I did, of course it is only natural I feel gratitude right? Its like you feel gratitude towards Sam here. Same thing loh.
Dear Herbert,
I ve been silently reading this blog for some time as mentioned earlier. Sam post his buy and sell calls. But I have not read a more detailed analysis as like those in newspaper or magazines. Maybe I am wrong, but I think Sam does not do so much homework like the fund managers, investment analysts etc and his results are superior than those fund managers/investment analysts right? So perhaps homework need to do, but not that much as those by the analysts?
As for the cycle, Sam corrected my wording used - I should have said Market rise and fall; instead of originally Stock rise and fall. But the whole premise I was trying to say is that it is based on the economic theory of rise and fall due to supply and demand. And TA is centered around this idea. Yes, some good stocks can have strong fundamentals that is why demand is high then price go up. But for some shit stocks also price can go up one woh... if not goreng, I dont know what that is.
Which blog show TA more superior? Actually, so far, I have yet to see any blog which are superior... no offense... I started off in the net visiting many many forums. Then visit many many blogs. Often I stay for a few days to a few months. Most initially look very good. Then found out its not so good. This blog I havent really track yet. Will track loh. Then see if really this blog is good. No offense ar, Sam. Just I belum tahu lagi.
No offense taken on my part. No worries. Van Tharp once said, Everyone of us will have a version of the truth of which may or may not be the truth. Or something to the effect la. Maybe you re right, maybe not. I dont know. Time will tell.
Dear Theng once more,
Correct me if I am wrong, but Moo guy is a strong advocate of FA no?
I remember arguing once kaukau with him. Because I borrowed Buffett's idea of "Selling when the reason you buy is no longer there" into TA. - he not happy. Then he say because I used foul language. All I said was that I have bastardized Buffett's idea and put it into TA. Yeahla... bastard is foul word la. But in that context, it merely mean I change it loh. But he cannot accept.
What to do.Btw, I m better at FKLI/FCPO than stocks... so well if you think I dont know FKLI/FCPO... aiyah... apa macam mau bikin... no need to challenge me in stocks also. Because my stock picking skills lousy mah. Right in the beginning already say loh.
Dear Sam,
OKla... Seng knows nuts about TA la. Happy? He started his blog that time was pure FA. I was the one introducing and convincing him TA can pakai. Then he started looking at TA and to learn TA. Until now how long only? In time la, he ll be better in TA. Is like, how long you took to master FA? Dont tell me born with it one ar... hahahaha
Anyway, yeahla, I pusing pusing then say the same thing. This one call polite mah :P
Yes, shit stock if delisted then relist is unlikely to recoup losses if one bought earlier. But well, my point is just that they might come back - thus the cycle. Anyway, as said above and earlier, I ll mention Market Rise and Fall from now onwards, instead of Stock. Actually I didnt say stock rise because of TA. I merely mention I didnt bother with the why loh.
How to define accumulation and distribution? Well... earlier I did mention that in accumulation, price doesnt move much; got some volume. And accumulation happen AFTER downtrend.
Distribution happen AFTER Uptrend. Price moves in range, volatility quite high. Volume remain high. But the price is in range only. Dont go make new major highs etc liaw...
Aiyah... if I know when... then maybe I no need pakai condom leh? Then I use the withdrawal style loh... :P Yes la... risk is higher. But rubber also not 100% mah. And more shiok without rubber. Hahaha.
FKLI. Manyak senang. Short now until Aug. That ll be my position. I m not that active in blogging, so if you want me become like you to post before hand, then susah la. You got followers. I dont have.You enjoy posting then let others make. I dont care loh others make or not. Not my bank account also. OKla, you can say me selfish. I accept one. But if you like, you can assume I take one contract every month. Margin is RM4000 now. Dont count the CNY higher margin la. That one temporary only. One point is RM50. End of every month see the ROI is how much. Maybe negative also can hahahaha but ROI number is big. So thats why if you say you earned 1500% ROI, I wont disbelieve just based on the number 1500 one. I am fine if you base this as my "performance".
Make money in the market? Due to FA or TA or our brain power strong? Actually I think its neither loh. I always think I make money not because I am smart. Just because the operator let me make only. I am such a small fish. If they want to kill me, anytime they can. Even PB Aneas with 400mil fund also mati... so if they dont want to let me make very easy for them to do only.
So now if you want practical, can be either the options below lo:
1) You choose 5 stocks. Then I comment. Then you comment. I comment first because I am outsider unproven fellow. You would not want me to follow your comments right? This blog is owned by you, so home ground advantage, you comment later lo.
2) You track my assumed ROI per month by assuming I short every first day of the month until Aug. Margin - the capital is RM4000 per lot. Then kautim loh. I already analysed and my analysis tell me should short until Aug. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I am right. Dont know one ar... if right, make money lo. Wrong ma lose money lo. Simple ma.So Sam, apa macam?
Whichever also can. Once again, I thank you for coming to my defence. Appreciate it a lot. If you do come to Klang, let me know. Bakuteh on me. :)
One thing, I d like to stress though... I am not a master of TA. I am a student of TA. If say Sam agrees on the challenge and then I lose, it ll only mean one thing... my knowledge not enough. Then I ll put in more efforts in learning :)And if I win, then it ll only mean I must learn to remain humble. Either case, it ll not mean FA or TA is more superior. Just that it mean we ll have to keep learning.
Happy learning!
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